Sometimes you can have the best conversations with just a “head”. They’re very quiet, excellent listeners and are usually a person of very few words!! For some reason these 2 pics just cracked me up!! Love that Foxie!!!
Theresasays
Wouldn’t it be wonderful to know what our Foxie is thinking when she is looking at her “babies”? She would have been such a wonderful mother. It’s heartbreaking to think of the trauma she went through when her babies were taken away. It also infuriates me with the people who were a party to this cruelty. Thank God and you all that she is no longer in that environment. Have there been any studies done on chimpanzees as far as post traumatic stress? I have no doubt many of them suffer from it.
Roslyn in Montrealsays
Theresa asked: Have there been any studies done on chimpanzees as far as post traumatic stress?
Building an Inner Sanctuary: Complex PTSD in Chimpanzees
Journal of Trauma and Dissociation 9(1) pp 9-34
G.A. Bradshaw, Ph.D., Ph.D, Theodora Capaldo, Ed.D.,
Lorin Lindner, Ph.D., M.P.H., and Gloria Grow, Sanctuary Director
Chimpanzee Sanctuary Northwest is also participating in a study on PTSD being conducted by Debra Durham and Hope Ferdowsian through Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine. J.B. posted a little about the study here: https://chimpsnw.org/2009/11/negra-5/
Jeani Goodrichsays
LOL I love the photos of Foxie. It looks like she is looking up saying ” Yes, you want something?” And then the next one she is telling her baby “Don’t pay any attention to them. We’ll just pretend it is just us!”
Diana and Roslyn, thank you for the information. Wow is that interesting.
Julie Hardingsays
Those pictures crack me up!! Foxie, you’re a doll with a doll!! I feel honored and humbled by being doused by Foxie’s mouthful of water today (all with a troll in her hand)!!! Jeani told me that meant that she liked me. I was at the sanctuary for volunteer orientation and was awestruck just by being in their presence! Jeani, your dinner for them tonight looked scrumptious!! WTG!
My thanks to Diana and Roslyn, too, for the PTSD information.
Amy M.says
This is a slight tangent but I’ll add it anyway:
I don’t know how many people read Jackie’s thesis studying the effects of caregivers in chimp sanctuaries using chimp behavior, mannerisms, etc., in their interactions with the chimps. Not all of them (even good ones) do. It seems to me that by CSNW doing that, it can only help along the chimps’ recovery because it’s a piece of giving them “agency” and the ability to control their environment (as much as is possible). I thought about it because Gay (GA) Bradshaw is a friend of mine and we’ve spoken about this.
Julie Hardingsays
Amy, thank you for your addition…and your two cents! It’s all worthwhile. Can you link Jackie’s study? From the volunteering orientation training I received today, rest assured, CSNW is doing what is forefront in sanctuary rehab for chimps. The CE7 are treated with respect and are given as much control of their environment as possible.
Theresasays
Roslyn, Thank for you the link. I could hardly stop crying. I remember feeling heartsick when I read the blog from J.B. which mentioned PTSD but this article did not have a very happy ending. It makes me that more determined to fight as hard as I can to get chimps out of the labs and into sanctuary. There is absolutely NO excuse for humans to be experimenting on chimps. As a nurse I understand the need for research but testing on animals is not acceptable to me.
Jeani Goodrichsays
The Humane Society is asking people to host a chimp party on May 2 to raise the awareness of the plight of chimps and also to bring the Great Ape Protection Act (H.R. 1326) which will phase out the use of chimpanzees in invasive research and retire the approximately 500 federally-owned chimps languishing in laboratories across the country. Below is a link to the site that tells more about it. http://action.humanesociety.org/site/TR/PartyAnimals/HumaneSocietyLegislativeFund
Jeani Goodrichsays
If you get lost on the above link go to the Humane Society and then click on the tab party animals.
Amy M.says
Julie — Oh, I know what a special place CSNW is!!
Jackie’s thesis isn’t online but I’m sure if you wrote her (jackie@chimpsnw.org) she’d send you a copy. I think she had mentioned her thesis on the blog a while back and offered it if people were interested in reading it. Actually, I’m not sure I read her whole thesis — she also sent a shorter article that reviewed the heart of her thesis. You should ask her for both.
Sometimes you can have the best conversations with just a “head”. They’re very quiet, excellent listeners and are usually a person of very few words!! For some reason these 2 pics just cracked me up!! Love that Foxie!!!
Wouldn’t it be wonderful to know what our Foxie is thinking when she is looking at her “babies”? She would have been such a wonderful mother. It’s heartbreaking to think of the trauma she went through when her babies were taken away. It also infuriates me with the people who were a party to this cruelty. Thank God and you all that she is no longer in that environment. Have there been any studies done on chimpanzees as far as post traumatic stress? I have no doubt many of them suffer from it.
Theresa asked: Have there been any studies done on chimpanzees as far as post traumatic stress?
Yes. One that I know of is mentioned here:
http://www.releasechimps.org/2008/04/24/chimpanzees-suffer-ptsd
Building an Inner Sanctuary: Complex PTSD in Chimpanzees
Journal of Trauma and Dissociation 9(1) pp 9-34
G.A. Bradshaw, Ph.D., Ph.D, Theodora Capaldo, Ed.D.,
Lorin Lindner, Ph.D., M.P.H., and Gloria Grow, Sanctuary Director
There is an Executive Summary pdf document here:
http://www.releasechimps.org/pdfs/ExecSumTraumaFINAL.pdf
Full study pdf document can be seen here:
http://www.parrotcare.org/chimp.pdf
Chimpanzee Sanctuary Northwest is also participating in a study on PTSD being conducted by Debra Durham and Hope Ferdowsian through Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine. J.B. posted a little about the study here: https://chimpsnw.org/2009/11/negra-5/
LOL I love the photos of Foxie. It looks like she is looking up saying ” Yes, you want something?” And then the next one she is telling her baby “Don’t pay any attention to them. We’ll just pretend it is just us!”
Diana and Roslyn, thank you for the information. Wow is that interesting.
Those pictures crack me up!! Foxie, you’re a doll with a doll!! I feel honored and humbled by being doused by Foxie’s mouthful of water today (all with a troll in her hand)!!! Jeani told me that meant that she liked me. I was at the sanctuary for volunteer orientation and was awestruck just by being in their presence! Jeani, your dinner for them tonight looked scrumptious!! WTG!
My thanks to Diana and Roslyn, too, for the PTSD information.
This is a slight tangent but I’ll add it anyway:
I don’t know how many people read Jackie’s thesis studying the effects of caregivers in chimp sanctuaries using chimp behavior, mannerisms, etc., in their interactions with the chimps. Not all of them (even good ones) do. It seems to me that by CSNW doing that, it can only help along the chimps’ recovery because it’s a piece of giving them “agency” and the ability to control their environment (as much as is possible). I thought about it because Gay (GA) Bradshaw is a friend of mine and we’ve spoken about this.
Amy, thank you for your addition…and your two cents! It’s all worthwhile. Can you link Jackie’s study? From the volunteering orientation training I received today, rest assured, CSNW is doing what is forefront in sanctuary rehab for chimps. The CE7 are treated with respect and are given as much control of their environment as possible.
Roslyn, Thank for you the link. I could hardly stop crying. I remember feeling heartsick when I read the blog from J.B. which mentioned PTSD but this article did not have a very happy ending. It makes me that more determined to fight as hard as I can to get chimps out of the labs and into sanctuary. There is absolutely NO excuse for humans to be experimenting on chimps. As a nurse I understand the need for research but testing on animals is not acceptable to me.
The Humane Society is asking people to host a chimp party on May 2 to raise the awareness of the plight of chimps and also to bring the Great Ape Protection Act (H.R. 1326) which will phase out the use of chimpanzees in invasive research and retire the approximately 500 federally-owned chimps languishing in laboratories across the country. Below is a link to the site that tells more about it.
http://action.humanesociety.org/site/TR/PartyAnimals/HumaneSocietyLegislativeFund
If you get lost on the above link go to the Humane Society and then click on the tab party animals.
Julie — Oh, I know what a special place CSNW is!!
Jackie’s thesis isn’t online but I’m sure if you wrote her (jackie@chimpsnw.org) she’d send you a copy. I think she had mentioned her thesis on the blog a while back and offered it if people were interested in reading it. Actually, I’m not sure I read her whole thesis — she also sent a shorter article that reviewed the heart of her thesis. You should ask her for both.